Secret Chiefzzz

Secret Chief cat is fascinated by this discussion.

Secret Chief cat is fascinated by this discussion.

There is no innovation in Golden Dawn magick! If there were, the same three or four topics would not get endlessly recycled on GD blogs and fora across the internet, year after year after year…

Just this week, for example, Nick Farrell has resurrected another old chestnut, the question of the reality of the Secret Chiefs. I could shove in my ha’pennorth on the subject… but looking back through my own blog posts I realise I am guilty of joining in the eternal gyres myself. Here for example is a vlog which expresses my views on the subject, back when the topic was being discussed in 2011.

Recently though I have seen this post on Magic of the Ordinary, and I thought I just had to respond to the four hypotheses that Peregrine advances.

I disagree with all four of them – and instead advance a fifth hypothesis of my own.

I have met in my life three or four people who could possibly be “Secret Chiefs.” NONE of them had internet access, nor used emails, nor ever attempted to go online in anyway. They communicate in strange, esoteric ways, such as using snail-mail (or, as it is known in the Third Order, “mail”), talking to people face to face – or, in the case of one potential Secret Chief who is particularly computer illiterate, getting her daughter to handle email communications on her behalf. 😉

This is a strange concept for some people who are addicted to the internet to grasp, but the fact of the matter is that if the Secret Chiefs are for real, they probably would not publicly respond to Nick’s challenge for quite innocent reasons, such as not being on the internet they haven’t read of it. One can get so addicted to being online that one should remember that 93% of the world’s population is not on Facebook, and as far as I’m aware that includes the Secret Chiefs as well.

If however I am mistaken, then I would say that I know which one of Peregrine’s four hypotheses is most likely… unfortunately I am bound by zillions of oaths of secrecy from saying. 😉


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7 responses to “Secret Chiefzzz

  1. Nah if they are REAL secret chiefs they should be aware physically that I want a word and my motivations. You would not know the MOAA passwords by being online.

    • As a dog returneth to its vomit, so doth a fool return to his folly.

      • This fellow is wise enough to play the fool. And to do that well craves a kind of wit craves requires | wit intelligence, wisdom
        He must observe their mood on whom he jests, The quality of persons, and the time, quality character This is a practise practise skilled profession (As full of labour as a wise man’s ar art skill For folly that he wisely shows is fit; folly that he wisely shows is fit foolery that he
        But wise men, folly-fall’n, quite taint their wit.
        12th Night

      • Nick, I’m going to humour you for a moment and pretend that this is a serious enquiry of yours, and not just a publicity stunt to help promote Commentaries on the Golden Dawn Flying Rolls.

        Why, pray tell, are you asking the Secret Chiefs to give you the words & signs of the MOAA only *now*, after it’s been formed? Surely you should have done so before you started it up??? In which case you will already know if the Secret Chiefs are for real or not.

        It’s like the stable door is properly shut, but Mister Horse has long since bolted!

  2. What an author plugging a book? Heaven forbid…. I take it you meant this one and not this one which came out this week??? No order which I know of,…. including the one formed by the number one exponent of Secret Chiefs was ever formed by a physical Secret Chief showing up and telling them to do it. What appears to happen is that if you believe in physical Secret Chiefs (which I am suspending my disbelief for the purposes of this experiment) is that you get your group running and then after testing a secret chief agrees to show up and back your work. Indeed this is a similar concept to Dion Fortune’s contact system. There you are inspired to set up a group by your personal contact who then gathers the teachers on the Inner Planes to work with you.

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